2017 Street Glide Special Test Ride - First Impressions

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The Harley Demo trailer was at my local HD Dealer, Brian's Harley, this weekend. I waited 1.5 hours to take a short ride on a 2017 Street Glide Special to see what all of the Engine and Suspension excitement was about. Having just done a 300 mile ride on a 2016 Road Glide last weekend, I thought it would be a great time to compare a 2016 to the 2017's.

Here are my first impressions:

1) The fun is gone at idle. I always enjoyed blipping the throttle to get that brrraaap, brrraaap, brute force response on the 103. Well, sadly its gone. It kind of feels like a Vespa scooter when you do the throttle blip on the 2017's with the 107 engine. You'll actually think something is wrong with the engine the first time you do this. Almost like its not responding to the throttle blip. It is responding (see #2), but because of the new counter-balancing, you'll think it's not responding.

2) The fun starts after you engage the clutch! The new engine has noticeably more torque and is deceptively fast. It really gets up and goes compared to the 2016's and it delivers it's power much more smoothly.

3) The new front and rear suspension is a HUGE improvement. I had to learn early-on when riding 2010-2016 Street Glides to straighten my back and brace for impact every time I was about to go over a bridge or overpass at highway speeds. The transition from pavement to concrete and back again could throw your back out if you weren't ready for it. Well, that's not necessary any more! The new suspension is amazing at smoothing out the bumps, even with the short travel on the SG rear suspension. The whole bike just feels much more planted under you, especially at highway speeds.

4) I don't like the appearance of the front fork in one area. For some reason, right where the fender bolts to the fork, they chose to not polish that area! Instead it has about a 1.5" band of roughly finished aluminum, while the rest of the fork is nicely polished. Cosmetically, it would look much better if this area was polished.

5) The new oil cooler is poorly located right behind the bottom of the front fender where it will be prone to damage from rocks, etc. kicked up by the front tire. They have no protection on the cooler itself, just the bare radiator fins are exposed. Sure could be a problem if something pops a hole in that cooler. I think it should be mounted a little higher.

6) The rest of the bike is identical to the 2016's.

7) I want one!
 
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Cam cover is really rounded out and the horn cover blows. No pun intended. Changing plugs will require pulling the tank.
Looks of the rocker covers is cool.
 
Yo J,
I just recently bought a '16 Street and I cant stand the ride. Roughest riding Harley I've EVER owned out of four. I've talked to my dealer about just taking it back because it's gonna throw me off just riding down a road with fixed potholes. Is it worth it to take the hit for this new bike or would you suggest putting a $1000 into this 25K bike to make it ride more comfortably. I guess my question is, is there really that BIG of a difference between the two rides?
 
Wrenched,

On the 2016, you could replace the rear shocks, but the 2017 has that entirely new Showa designed front fork in addition to the Showa rear shocks. So it would be hard to replicate the 2017 ride/feel by upgrading things on a 2016. Take a demo ride on a 2017, it will make it easier to make your decision. Make sure the 2017 rears are not set to a heavy pre-load before you ride it.

And yes, I think the difference is significant re: ride quality.
 
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Yo J,
I just recently bought a '16 Street and I cant stand the ride. Roughest riding Harley I've EVER owned out of four. I've talked to my dealer about just taking it back because it's gonna throw me off just riding down a road with fixed potholes. Is it worth it to take the hit for this new bike or would you suggest putting a $1000 into this 25K bike to make it ride more comfortably. I guess my question is, is there really that BIG of a difference between the two rides?

You have a bike with only 2" of suspension travel in the back. Put on a set of decent 13" shocks to increase the travel by 50%.
 
The Harley Demo trailer was at my local HD Dealer, Brian's Harley, this weekend. I waited 1.5 hours to take a short ride on a 2017 Street Glide Special to see what all of the Engine and Suspension excitement was about. Having just done a 300 mile ride on a 2016 Road Glide last weekend, I thought it would be a great time to compare a 2016 to the 2017's.

Here are my first impressions:

1) The fun is gone at idle. I always enjoyed blipping the throttle to get that brrraaap, brrraaap, brute force response on the 103. Well, sadly its gone. It kind of feels like a Vespa scooter when you do the throttle blip on the 2017's with the 107 engine. You'll actually think something is wrong with the engine the first time you do this. Almost like its not responding to the throttle blip. It is responding (see #2), but because of the new counter-balancing, you'll think it's not responding.

2) The fun starts after you engage the clutch! The new engine has noticeably more torque and is deceptively fast. It really gets up and goes compared to the 2016's and it delivers it's power much more smoothly.

3) The new front and rear suspension is a HUGE improvement. I had to learn early-on when riding 2010-2016 Street Glides to straighten my back and brace for impact every time I was about to go over a bridge or overpass at highway speeds. The transition from pavement to concrete and back again could throw your back out if you weren't ready for it. Well, that's not necessary any more! The new suspension is amazing at smoothing out the bumps, even with the short travel on the SG rear suspension. The whole bike just feels much more planted under you, especially at highway speeds.

4) I don't like the appearance of the front fork in one area. For some reason, right where the fender bolts to the fork, they chose to not polish that area! Instead it has about a 1.5" band of roughly finished aluminum, while the rest of the fork is nicely polished. Cosmetically, it would look much better if this area was polished.

5) The new oil cooler is poorly located right behind the bottom of the front fender where it will be prone to damage from rocks, etc. kicked up by the front tire. They have no protection on the cooler itself, just the bare radiator fins are exposed. Sure could be a problem if something pops a hole in that cooler. I think it should be mounted a little higher.

6) The rest of the bike is identical to the 2016's.

7) I want one!

1. " The fun is gone at idle"
Really? I'll take the sophistication and performance of this engine over any "brrraaap, brrraaap, brute force response" everytime. It's about time harley built a serious bike. The V-Rod not withstanding...

2. "The fun starts after you engage the clutch!"
Definitely. Power, handling, performance. This bike has it all.

3. "The new front and rear suspension is a HUGE improvement"
Absolutely. This new engine is incredible, but not many people are talking about the suspension. It eclipses the engine in fun factor IMO. I live at the bottom of Ute Pass in Colorado Springs. An extremely fun motorcycle road that I've ridden on dozens of bikes over the last 40 years. Today, the first full day of owning my Milwaukee eight, I blasted up and down the pass three times, it's been decades since I've done this on such a confidence inspiring bike, and I've never been this happy with a harley on this road. Simply a great bike.

4. "I don't like the appearance of the front fork in one area. For some reason, right where the fender bolts to the fork, they chose to not polish that area! Instead it has about a 1.5" band of roughly finished aluminum"
Yep That's really weird. I don't like it either.

5. "The new oil cooler is poorly located right behind the bottom of the front fender where it will be prone to damage from rocks, etc. kicked up by the front tire."
Yeah, but that's where it's always been. It's never been a problem with any of my other Harley baggers...

6. "The rest of the bike is identical to the 2016's"
Yep, why change what ain't broken....

7. "I want one!"

Yep again. I decided this when I rode one on Saturday. Now I own one. Great bike....
 
You have a bike with only 2" of suspension travel in the back. Put on a set of decent 13" shocks to increase the travel by 50%.
Or just get a pair of these new shocks. My '08 FLHTP had 13" shocks. It still handled like crap. Plus, adding longer shocks won't cure the thin front forks with their antiquated dampening rod suspension. This new suspension simply works well. It would be expensive to retrofit an older 'Glide.
 
1. " The fun is gone at idle"
Really? I'll take the sophistication and performance of this engine over any "brrraaap, brrraaap, brute force response" everytime. It's about time harley built a serious bike. The V-Rod not withstanding...

2. "The fun starts after you engage the clutch!"
Definitely. Power, handling, performance. This bike has it all.

3. "The new front and rear suspension is a HUGE improvement"
Absolutely. This new engine is incredible, but not many people are talking about the suspension. It eclipses the engine in fun factor IMO. I live at the bottom of Ute Pass in Colorado Springs. An extremely fun motorcycle road that I've ridden on dozens of bikes over the last 40 years. Today, the first full day of owning my Milwaukee eight, I blasted up and down the pass three times, it's been decades since I've done this on such a confidence inspiring bike, and I've never been this happy with a harley on this road. Simply a great bike.

4. "I don't like the appearance of the front fork in one area. For some reason, right where the fender bolts to the fork, they chose to not polish that area! Instead it has about a 1.5" band of roughly finished aluminum"
Yep That's really weird. I don't like it either.

5. "The new oil cooler is poorly located right behind the bottom of the front fender where it will be prone to damage from rocks, etc. kicked up by the front tire."
Yeah, but that's where it's always been. It's never been a problem with any of my other Harley baggers...

6. "The rest of the bike is identical to the 2016's"
Yep, why change what ain't broken....

7. "I want one!"

Yep again. I decided this when I rode one on Saturday. Now I own one. Great bike....

Good luck with the new bike. I've got a day off tomorrow. I'm going to wonder over to my HD dealer and see what kind of deal they can spin on a 2017 SGS. I would be curious to know what kind of deal they offered you on your 2017.
 
Good luck with the new bike. I've got a day off tomorrow. I'm going to wonder over to my HD dealer and see what kind of deal they can spin on a 2017 SGS. I would be curious to know what kind of deal they offered you on your 2017.

I paid sticker but got 3K to 3.5K more than my trade was worth. I had to go 350 miles from home to Grand Junction to get this deal. Pikes Peak HD would come off sticker by $500 but wanted to give me crap for my trade.

Both dealers said, and I believe its true, that these bikes will be few and far between until January or so. If you want a really good deal it's probably best to wait till mid winter, as usual. I wanted mine now...
 
I bought my '14 in Sept 2013. No deals then, sticker price ruled. 3 months later they were dealing! If you want one and can wait, it will be worth it. Most will not come off msrp very much but will throw in parts as part of the deal to even it out. I'm waiting this time!
 
I paid sticker but got 3K to 3.5K more than my trade was worth. I had to go 350 miles from home to Grand Junction to get this deal. Pikes Peak HD would come off sticker by $500 but wanted to give me crap for my trade.

Both dealers said, and I believe its true, that these bikes will be few and far between until January or so. If you want a really good deal it's probably best to wait till mid winter, as usual. I wanted mine now...

Ocezam / Mojo,

Thanks for the deal info. I'm banking on using the recently reported HD layoffs and sales downturn (see USA Today, 8/31/16) as a negotiating point.

My dealer is also sitting on 29 2016 SG's though, so he may not be willing to deal on the 2017's. Too bad I'm no longer interested in a 2016, I could probably get a sweet deal on one.
 
I went to my local dealer just to check out the 2017 street glide looked at it they had a Laguna orange one and a red hard candy in stock. I they had the orange one outside didn't care for the color really like the hard candy but way to much cash for that paint . So I asked if I could ride it they said yes well long story short I worked a deal for a black one with all the stage 1 stuff and such . I loved my 14 street glide standard but man the Milwaukie-eight has it going on .they were dealer trading for a black one the sales manager called and said we don't want to do a trade we just got a blue one in and we will give you the blue one for the price of a black one so I said yes .I got it home today put the screaming eagle 4.5 in street cannons on it . went form a 14 standard to a 17 special and wow cant take the grin off my face . The motor company sure stepped up the game on this .
 
I went to my local dealer just to check out the 2017 street glide looked at it they had a Laguna orange one and a red hard candy in stock. I they had the orange one outside didn't care for the color really like the hard candy but way to much cash for that paint . So I asked if I could ride it they said yes well long story short I worked a deal for a black one with all the stage 1 stuff and such . I loved my 14 street glide standard but man the Milwaukie-eight has it going on .they were dealer trading for a black one the sales manager called and said we don't want to do a trade we just got a blue one in and we will give you the blue one for the price of a black one so I said yes .I got it home today put the screaming eagle 4.5 in street cannons on it . went form a 14 standard to a 17 special and wow cant take the grin off my face . The motor company sure stepped up the game on this .

Couldn't agree more with you on the performance. Congrats!
 
I believe there still 49mm forks it's just the new cartridge valving has been redone , thinking you could retro fit the larger fork tubes with the new cartridges , there not available separately in this years P&A or SE catalog's maybe next year depending on the cost ........

Showa has come up with a novel approach to fitting flexing-disc damping control. It’s not a conventional cartridge arrangement, but what it most resembles is the long-running Race Tech Emulator, which converts a damping-rod fork to have cartridge-like damping character. In this case, a pair of deflecting-disc valves reside in a chamber placed atop a conventional looking damping rod. They take over some of the rebound and compression damping so that the fork doesn’t have the harshness of a pure orifice-controlled device. But it’s also simpler and probably less expensive than a conventional dual-cartridge setup. There’s no adjustment for the fork, and no way to change damping settings at either end. Maybe some day…
 
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Anyone concerned about the plumbing on the new M8/107 oil & air cooled heads?. I'm thinking it should have been done with stainless braided lines with connections that are screwed together rather than steel tubing joined by clamped rubber tubing. This wasn't easily noticeable on the assembled 2017 demo bike I rode, but if you take a look at the picture below, this plumbing is all external to the heads/engine. I wonder how leak tight it will be in the long term. Having "vital fluids" flowing external to the engine in rubber hosing, makes me wonder if it will be prone to leaks. Yes I know an automobile cooling system has clamped rubber hosing carrying coolant to/from the radiator, but the implications of an oil leak seem more significant (and costly) than a coolant leak.

I don't know much about Harley engine history, has plumbing like this been used on other HD engines? If so, was it problematic?


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They have been using rubber hoses to /from the oil cooler for some time , the oil cooler has also been mounted low directly behind the front tire for some time too as some one had mentioned concern over. Don't seem to be a common failure area , like shiftier shaft and compensator failures are.
 
I test drove a 17 SGS today that was Stage 1. The only thing I didn't like was the clutch and the pissed off bumble bee exhaust note.
 
So I have had my 2017 special for 3 weeks yesterday and today its in the shop with 625 miles on it with a oil leak at the right front corner of the engine so I will see how this goes just disappointed but I did buy the first year of the new engine but overall I'm super stoked with this bike .
 


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